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Foxtuning65
02-04-2012, 09:06 PM
The story behind these boas is kind of weird. I contacted the guy looking to purchase his albino burm. He told me it is gone and he just had two boas left. So out of curiosity I asked about them. He said "female is 12 feet and like 85 lbs and the male is 9 feet and about 40 lbs." It didnt sound right to me and as we talked I realized this guy had no idea what he was doing. We worked out a deal where I could come down and pick up some cages as well as the two boas because they needed homes immediately. If not he would "have to kill them." We go down to his house and they are tucked in a back room that was freezing and only had two lights that had 12 and 25 watt bulbs in them. While talking to the guy he told me the burm had died from what he called a RI. I call it neglect. I looked at the big female (that i think is a nicaraguan) and she has the chin of a shed stuck on her, no bedding and the cages havent been cleaned in forever. She also had no water and her nose is rubbed almost raw. I looked at the male, he is definitely not a normal, almost looks like a salmon. But he is very dehydrated and also had no water, no heat and a stuck shed. He turned his head and his nose is completely rubbed off and he was barely moving. His tail was infected nad is now black and has old sheds stuck on it. I am trying my best to provide for these two and bring them back to health. I brought them home, gave them heat, clean cages and fresh water. I also helped the female shed and as it got to her vent I pulled on a piece of shed and pulled about an inch and a half of dead skin out of her vent. Anyway, here are some pics of them. They're in real bad shape, bu improving everyday. Big girl ate as well. If you have any idea what the two of them are please let me know.

Big girl Nemesis - when we got home
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af128/Foxtuning65/Reptiles/P2030244.jpg
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After shed
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af128/Foxtuning65/Reptiles/P2030249.jpg
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af128/Foxtuning65/Reptiles/P2030251.jpg
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af128/Foxtuning65/Reptiles/P2030252.jpg

Today
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af128/Foxtuning65/Reptiles/P2040233.jpg
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af128/Foxtuning65/Reptiles/P2040234.jpg
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Taken down a meal
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Here's the smaller male. His name is Petri. I am thinking hes a salmon of some sort. PIcs dont do his orange color justice.
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af128/Foxtuning65/Reptiles/P2030235.jpg
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Today after refusing a meal. Just relaxing.
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af128/Foxtuning65/Reptiles/P2040256.jpg
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I hope I can bring them back to health. Any tips or suggestions please let me know. I am always looking for help.

Sparkki
02-04-2012, 09:19 PM
Wow! Things like this make me want to cry and slap some one at the same time! The female looks like she is/has colombian in her, and the male might be hypo but looks pastel IMO but im not sure. Make sure to check for mites and you can clean his nose with listerine and put neosporin on it. Best of luck with them!

Foxtuning65
02-04-2012, 09:38 PM
Yeah, weve been using neosporin on it daily to help. It looks a lot better now and I didnt use listerine on it yet so ill have to do that. I know his nose will probably never grow back right but as long as it heals and allows him to eat ill be happy. It took all my strength to not punch the guy in his face.

Jermosh
02-04-2012, 10:58 PM
I think you need to get an exotic vet or reptile sanctuary to look at it. It looks like it might be inffected bone, how does his teeth look?

Good job on the rescue though!

VinnyButch
02-04-2012, 11:15 PM
Good job taking those two in. They must think they've gone to heaven.
I don't have any experience in rescues, but I don't know if I'd put Listerine on any animal's nose. That stuff burns like hell in your mouth. What would it feel like if you inhaled even just the fumes? Ouch.

Lot's of luck, I really hope they do well for you.

Sparkki
02-04-2012, 11:43 PM
I just like to tell ppl about listerine cuz it really will clean the hell out of it and is safe for snakes. Not sayin spray it right in there lol maybe just dap some on with a cotton ball. Just an idea but if you have something else thats been working stick to it.

Llamekuf
02-05-2012, 07:26 AM
you know listerene is floor cleaner don;t you?
LOL

motorhead
02-05-2012, 07:45 AM
good man taking these two on and the best of luck with getting them both back to their best!! i would take the male to a vet to get him checked over. they both look like common bci and maybe the male is a very dark pastel.

Sparkki
02-05-2012, 11:35 AM
Listerine is mouth wash. Here is a link to another post about it. http://www.burmesepythonforums.com/showthread.php?tid=5125

Joel
02-05-2012, 12:00 PM
The male is not salmon but he is very nice looking. Both animals look Colombian to me. That is gangrene on the tail and is going to need to be amputated. Both of these animals need to visit the vet for thorough check ups.

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naja-naja
02-05-2012, 12:28 PM
i would deffo have the vet give these the once over just to be sure, i reckon the male is a pastel rather then hypo.

Foxtuning65
02-05-2012, 06:59 PM
Yeah I figured a vet visit was in my future. The closest one to me is two hours away. That sucks about his tail. I can't believe they let it get to that point. Ink ew something was really wrong with it. In going to try to get him to eat in the next week or two. Let's hope he takes

naja-naja
02-06-2012, 05:10 AM
he may not eat if his mouth hurts too much, the sooner that can be fixed, the more likely he is to begin to eat. also start with smaller meals, if he hasn't eaten in a while a too large one may be a shock to his system.

Jermosh
02-06-2012, 01:13 PM
You might have to give it a pinky shake, but you need to get to the vet.

Foxtuning65
02-06-2012, 04:26 PM
Vet appointment has been made. The reptile dr couldn't see anything today so tomorrow afternoon both of them are going in for checkups. I just got my tax return so whatever this little guy needs to get back to health he is going to get. I;m sad his tail will need the tip cut off but if it saves his life i gotta get it done. At least its only about an inch of it. I think he is a pastel but the pics don't give his color justice. Plus hes probably really dulled out from malnutrition. I hope the vet doesn't say anything about putting him down. That would kill me. Hes too pretty and friendly for that to happen to him. Hoping for the best guys.

Jermosh
02-06-2012, 08:28 PM
Just be prepaired, but I am sure its all going to be ok.

Muggins
02-07-2012, 03:13 AM
Good luck with these two, I really take my hat off to you in keeping your calm, must have taken a lot.
Let us know how everything goes getting them back to health.

robin scott budd
02-07-2012, 07:23 AM
Just wanted to say best of luck with these two. Rescueing is a selfless job. The wife and i have been doing it out of pocket for years now. We have lost our share of animals and its never easy. Allways take them to a good reptile vet. You never know what you could be bringing into your home, you have to keep you animals safe. Hope they both pull thru for you.

Foxtuning65
02-07-2012, 08:14 AM
Thanks guys. Reading what you guys are saying are keeping me positive and motivated. These cages really need to be fixed as well. He made them out of untreated press board stuff. They are open on top and in the front and just has wires. So today after the vet I am coming home to drop them off then heading to lowes. I am going to use the frames but replace the wood with Plexi and tile board made for showers. My one cage is made like this for my burm and holds up and holds humidity very well. Hoping for good news from the vet in a few hours after class.

Jermosh
02-07-2012, 06:39 PM
Thanks guys. Reading what you guys are saying are keeping me positive and motivated. These cages really need to be fixed as well. He made them out of untreated press board stuff. They are open on top and in the front and just has wires. So today after the vet I am coming home to drop them off then heading to lowes. I am going to use the frames but replace the wood with Plexi and tile board made for showers. My one cage is made like this for my burm and holds up and holds humidity very well. Hoping for good news from the vet in a few hours after class.


Just get some rubbermaid containers.

Foxtuning65
02-07-2012, 09:06 PM
So after about a 300 dollar vet visit we have good and bad news. The female is healthy just has a bad case of mites. Which I figured. The male is much worse. Top of jaw is broken, tip of his tail is infected and going to fall off on its on. Respiratory infection and he has mites. We have to inject him with needles and two meds down his throat and soak him in the tub 30 min a day in bedadine to get rid of the mites. same for the female. The vet seems to think hell be ok and hope to get him to eat by Saturday. Going to try a few different food items. Good thing I have these two on strict qt. but all is looking up for the little guy. I'll keep you guys updated.

Jermosh
02-07-2012, 09:32 PM
Well good luck to you, thanks for doing the right thing!

BurmeseGuy317
02-08-2012, 04:11 AM
First off let me say good job on keeping your cool...unlike me when I got my Albino Burmese from a FRIEND who had mistreated it and just didn't take care of it...not sure he really knew what he was getting into...got the snake cuz it looked cool...long story short I made him leave and told him not to come back until he could tell me the proper way he should have been caring for his snake...I know sounds stupid but it will make it easier for me to rekindle the friendship

I might suggest Aquaphor or the generic version...it is a lotion that promotes healing...my Burmese had the same thing wrong with her nose being raw...I used the Aquaphor and she shed a few days ago with no scar...as for cleaning wounds NEVER I repeat NEVER use Listerine...next time you get an open cut I want you to throw some Listerine on it, whoever suggested that...just use some witch hazel on a Q-tip, I bathe mine weekly with a mild soap mix highly diluted with water and only use dial...you're doing an awesome job man, keep up the good work...I know it's hard, keep that humidity right and they'll love it cuz the skin will just fall off lol sort of speak.
Does wonders for their attitudes and really just makes them happier over all...

Keep us updated and update your pictures too...
Mine has a RI too...she's still getting antibiotics because the climate change from bad to good was too much for her immune system...I hate stickin her with that needle...

robin scott budd
02-08-2012, 10:24 AM
Didnt hear the bad news. :) sounds like you have everything under control. Glad to hear they will be okay. Keep us posted. As far as listerine. Its one of the best antseptics out there. I have been useing it for over a year now to disinfect all my cages. My albino came in with two big cuts down his back. I used it to clean them out twice a week they healed up fast for a cold blooded animal. There are a lot of use's for listerine. Please go back and read the older posts about it. I was advised to Use it by people with way more time with these animals than myself.in cluding my vet, and i have kept reptiles for over 35 years. But each to there own. Listerine started out as a hair tonic, not floor cleaner. Lol

Jermosh
02-08-2012, 10:13 PM
I like betadine bath and silverdine the best for open wounds. Neosporin if you cannot get a scipt.

Burmthon
02-09-2012, 03:38 AM
nice move.thank you for saving them.

Foxtuning65
02-09-2012, 11:01 AM
THanks for the kind words guys. Started the soaks with them. A ton of mites came off the male and the female. I soaked 15 minutes in normal water and 15 in the betadine solution. He loved the soaks and probably feels a lot better now. Well take some pics tonight to show his nose healing up. The big girl loves her heat tape side of her cage. Plus I am building new cages this weekend. I also order some Provent a mite. I will kill this infestation one way or another. Hope the boy eats this weekend. He still needs oral injections and needles every few days. Hope this RI goes away soon so he can start putting weight on. BTW he finally peed last night. It was a little stringy but it was nice to see his system working.

Amaddox
02-09-2012, 11:59 AM
Good to hear you are getting them fixed up. You can also use a pest strip to treat them. I remove all water from the enclosure and place the strip or a piece of a strip (depending on the size of the enclosure. Usually use a full strip for 40-75 gallon or equivalent enclosures) in the enclosure with the snakes. Remove the snakes for 30 minutes to an hour a day for soaking and drinking in a separate easy to clean enclosure like a rubbermaid. I do a week with the strip in, then remove it for a week, give them back the water, and carry on as normal. Then repeat after a week. I do three weeks of treatments in all. This usually will take care of any eggs or mites burrowed in. You can place the strips in ziplocs and store for later use. I treat every animal that cones through the doors of my shop like this and I constantly have people dumping animals on me that are infested. It works great and I haven't had any problems with it. Just keep an eye on the snakes and make sure they don't show any adverse affects to the strips. If they do, pull them and soak them and either quit treatment or decrease the size of the strip.

Jermosh
02-09-2012, 05:42 PM
I have heard about useing the strips from a few. The key is taking the water away from what I hear.

Foxtuning65
02-09-2012, 09:25 PM
I will try that. What strips do you use? A link would be great. I'm attempting to feed the male on Saturday. Hopefully I'll have pictures of the male soon

Amaddox
02-09-2012, 09:46 PM
I have heard about useing the strips from a few. The key is taking the water away from what I hear.



Yep. If you leave water in, it absorbs the chemicals and then they drink it. Apparently it also works the same with feeder amphibians. Keep them near toads and then feed them to hognose and you end up with dead snakes.

As for the brand, I use hot shot. You can get them at most groceries or home and garden stores.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0019BK8AG/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/175-9469233-5299438/

Jermosh
02-09-2012, 10:21 PM
I use frontline spray and sevin, while it is expensive, working at a sanctuary has its perks.

Foxtuning65
02-11-2012, 08:08 AM
Thanks guys. I'll have to go get some strips this weekend. I'm waiting to hear back about my cage supplies so I can build the new cages and waiting in my PAM to get here. I'll take some new pics tonight after I try to feed the little man. Big girl ate last night surprisingly. And she aggressively ate which is a good sign.

Foxtuning65
02-12-2012, 07:33 PM
NEW DEVELOPEMENT!
The Male (Petri) ate tonight! It was a small rat, not what he should be eating but with a broken jaw I had to give him something small. I left it in the cage with him for a little bit and he took it down like a champ. I am so happy he ate. I have the follow up appointment on tuesday for him. I'm excited to see him put weight back on. As for big mama (Nemesis) she ate on saturday with the rest of my collection. She hit the rat hard. Feels so good seeing these two start to turn around. :)

Jermosh
02-12-2012, 10:24 PM
Awesome!

Foxtuning65
02-15-2012, 05:35 AM
More good news. Took Petri to the vet yesterday and she was impressed. The infection in his mouth and tail are going away and the bare bone in his face is getting covered up. I now have to put ointment on his face daily but his pain meds do not need to be used anymore. He still needs to soak about twice a week or so. Things are def looking up. I cannot wait for them to both get over the mites so I can move them into my snake room.

millcrick
02-15-2012, 06:22 PM
WOW! This drives me up the wall when people neglect animals like this. I'm So glad to hear they are in better hands now and doing much better.

Foxtuning65
02-19-2012, 07:49 PM
It does the same to me. I will hopefully get some pics tonight. The male is doing much better and his nose is beginning to heal. Big girl is still just being herself. I'm moving the male into a different cage so he is not able to rub his face on wire. But thanks for all the comments. We're finishing his meds soon, let's hope this RI disappears

Foxtuning65
03-10-2012, 12:05 AM
More good news. I know I haven't posted in forever but it's the busy time of year for me. Petri is doing well. He's down to just Fortaz every three days. He had shed the other day and the tip of his tail had fallen off. Over the past few days ive been doing cleaning and ointment and it's healing well. His face is doing good too. He also ate again. I gave him a large rat and small and left him alone. He ate the small and did nothing with the large so I hope to move him up to mediums soon. The female is doing great and so far we think we have beat the mites. Anyway, here's some pics. Enjoy.http://img.tapatalk.com/addaf4b8-fc45-b2a6.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/addaf4b8-fc55-6cfa.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/addaf4b8-fc64-c154.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/addaf4b8-fc73-747d.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/addaf4b8-fc81-faf8.jpg

Foxtuning65
03-23-2012, 06:38 PM
Thanks guys. A mini update tidy, Petri ate again last night and even got aggressive about it which is good. He came after the rat which he has never done. Nemesis is still just a big baby and is going into shed again. I'll try to take both out. BTW petris infected area of his tale had fallen off with his shed and is growing back well. I'll grab pics of that tonight as well.

robin scott budd
03-23-2012, 07:13 PM
So glad to hear they are on the mend. Sounds like there happy where they are now. Great job.

Foxtuning65
03-24-2012, 12:13 AM
Fed both of them tonight. Little man ate a large rat and he struck at it and coiled. First time he's done that. Big girl ate as well. Anyway here's some pics.http://img.tapatalk.com/addaf4b8-65aa-38ba.jpg<br />
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Here's big girl<br />
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Amaddox
03-24-2012, 07:07 AM
Very awesome! Glad you got fixed em up!

Foxtuning65
07-16-2012, 06:42 AM
Update on these guys. Both are doing well, still fighting the RI with Petri. The vet said this is one of the longest lasting RI's she has ever seen. I'm hoping he will overcome it sometime soon.
Big girl is doing fantastic. She still hisses a little when I handle her but
She eats well and she'd again for us. Can't wait to possibly breed them later down the road. I'll grab some pics tonight and post them to show you guys how much better they're doing.

Rogue
07-25-2012, 05:13 AM
I've been gone so long, I'm just now seeing this. It really makes me angry to see any animal in horrible condition due to humans. Poor Petri looked awful when you first got him. I'm really glad to hear they're doing much better. I'll keep my fingers crossed he can finally get rid of that nasty RI. Do you have any recent pics of his face and nose? I'd love to see how well his nose has healed from the rubbing.

I'm glad you took them in and gave them a better and happier home. I don't know if I could have kept my cool with that guy. I have a hard enough time controlling myself when I see animals poorly taken care of in pet stores (and why I avoid them if possible)

Please keep us updated on them.

Foxtuning65
08-09-2012, 08:46 PM
Here's an update. Just got a shed from Petri. So I took him out and snapped some shots of him. We're still dealing with an RI with big girl and Petri is finally holding his weight. And bog girl is currently in blue. Anyway here are the pics.
http://img.tapatalk.com/a6895820-7570-5bc5.jpg
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Thanks for looking.

m758b033
08-09-2012, 09:26 PM
Just read through the thread and have to say it is awesome what you are doing. I always hear about people the are uneducated on keeping their reptiles and end up neglecting them. It is good to read a story where the ignorance replaced with care and the animals are all the better for it. Great job man, truly. Glad to see they are well.

Rogue
11-04-2012, 12:27 AM
Fox, can you update us on these two?